AU Determination

Just had a question .Venus transit observations would be useful for calculating AU Can Any body explain HOW? - Prabodhan

The data you will need for this determination is the perpendicular distance between two observed transit paths of Venus across the face of the Sun as seen from two widely separated locations on Earth - this is where the contact timings will come in. One can relate, using similar triangles - this perpendicular distance of the two observed chords, the distance between the two observation points, Earth Sun distance, and Venus Sun distance.

Venus Sun distance can also be expressed in terms of Earth Sun
distance and the maximum elongation of Venus - that is - the angular distance between Venus and Sun keeps changing going through zero at the time of transit - so, once before or after the transit, there will be a time when the angular distance will go through a maximum - at such times the Sun, Venus Earth angle is 90 degrees - and Sun- Venus distance can be expressed in terms of SUn-Earth distance and the maximum elongation. One will also need an estimate of the ratio of the perpendicular distance between the two observed transits and the Solar disk.

Anyway, as I said, I will try and put this together in an article
format with figures
- maybe someone else in the group also has
similar material or links to such material.
- Rathnasree

How can we calculate the AU from the venus transit? - Rishabh Arora

Rishab,
A complete answer to this question needs diagrams. I will try to
outline the principle involved  The fundamental technique of measuring distance to a distant object is to view it from two different locations and measure the angle
formed by the two lines of sight. To measure this angle you need a
background even further than the object whose distance you are
measuring. For example
1. Stretch your hand and hold your index finger in line with your
nose.
2.  Close one eye and look at the background with the other.
3. Change to the other eye. You will see the background jump!
4.  If you know the angle made by the background objects at your
finger and
5. The distance between your eyes
6. You can calculate the distance from your nose to your outstretched
finger!Ofcourse this is trivial bu the technique works in other situations
Now imagine Venus as your finger. Positions A and B on earth as your
two eyes and the background as the solar disc whose angular dimension
is accurately known. By measuring the parallactic displacement of
venus on the solar disc, you can measure the distance from the Earth
to Venus at transit. It is clear, that this distance is the
difference between the radii of the orbits of Earth and Venus i.e. 
(Re -R v). The ratio of the radii Rv/Re is easily obtained by
measuring the maximum angular separation between Venus and the Sun.
This second observation can be done frequently and is not as rare as
a transit. Combining the two results, Re  which is the distance
between the Earth and the Sun  can be calculated in terms of
kilometers.Some of the links in this group have diagrams of the
geometry of Venus transit, which may further help you in understading
the technique. - Nirupama Raghavan

An article describing a simple understanding of AU determination from transit observations was uploaded to the files section of the VenusTransit group site

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VenusTransit/files/The%20geometry%20of%20transits.doc.

This is also available at http://rathnasree.htmlplanet.com/geometry1.htm

Rathnasree

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